quote:I do recall, however, that Utah has had at least one democratic governor in my lifetime, and it seems like a democratic US senator, although I'm not from Utah, so I might be mistaken. As I think about it, the senator that Orrin Hatch replaced was a demoncrat wasn't he?
Utah currenlty has one Democratic Congressman, Jim Matheson. His father, Scott Matheson, Sr., was Utah's last Democratic governor, serving from 1977 to 1985. He succeeded Calvin Rampton, a Democrat who served three terms. Orrin Hatch defeated Frank Moss, who served three terms in the US Senate as a Democrat from Utah.
Utah has a had a few other prominent Democratic officeholders in recent years, most notably Reps. Wayne Owens and Bill Orton and Attorneys General Paul Van Dam and Jan Graham. But Democrats have been losing ground in Utah for the last two decades, at least.
Mormons were inclined to be Democrats back in the day -- a direct result of the Republican focus on eliminating the "twin pillars of barbarism" -- slavery and polygamy. Utah voters also were fairly enthusiastic New Dealers when FDR was president. LDS voters moved more aggressively into the Republican camp in the 1950s and 1960s when counter-culture politics was emerging and the Democratic Party became more accomodating to leftist politics.
In fact, FDR's Federal Reserve Chairman, who is credited for building the Fed into what it is today...in fact the Fed building in Washington is named after him...started First Security Bank in Utah. Marriner Eccles was his name, and was a good church member, and wrote the legislation which turned the Fed from a relatively weak institution into the behemoth that it is today. Although I don't know, he was probably a good democrat as well, but certainly enthusiastically supported FDR's reforms, such as removing the gold standard, etc.
And apparently too slow. It took you 9 days to find this? No wonder all those bunny recipes have been allowed to stand in those other threads...
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Seven the bad little lab mix loves you. She loves playing with plush animals, especially the part where she pulls all the stuffing out through the neck and then gleefully drags the "skin" around to show everyone.
Our older dog, Mishka, prefers to eviscerate plush animals in order to remove and eat the plastic squeaker (and the stuffing, unless someone stops her). She also eats the fuzz off of tennis balls. We won't let her kiss you, though, unless you'd like an exfoliating facial, because she is a purebred Lab and has a full quotient of Labrador lickiness.
When he was president, Jimmy Carter once went canoeing. Of course he didn't go alone -- the bodyguards were with him, as well as at least some members of the press.
At some point, the president noticed a bunny swimming for the canoe at top speed. The president was afraid the bunny was going to do him harm, so he beat the bunny off with a paddle.
No, this isn't a joke. It was an actual incident that occurred during the Carter years. I'm sure you can find it on Google. As you can imagine, the president got a whole lot of press for being afraid of a rabbit -- especially one that was in the water when he was safely in a boat.
Sounds like Carter needed a "Holy Hand Grenade" to use on the "Killer Rabbit"!
A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:
Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
-- Monty Python, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
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I don't mean to spoil the fun here, but it has been awhile since I was on the forum and I have a couple of things I would like to say about this thread's origional topic. The following quote is by BrooklynChris on a related thread.
quote:Some of the greatest Cold Warriors were Democrats: Truman, JFK, Sen. Scoop Jackson, to name a few.
Actually, the Democrat Party of JFK is not the Democrat Party that exists today. JFK and his brother, RFK, were both ardently anti-Communist. It is debatable whether either would have ever embraced either gay marriage, or abortion as a means of birth control.
At any rate, Peter Beinart, the liberal editor of the liberal magazine "New Republic" has some interesting things to say about what happened to the Democrats. His article makes for very interesting reading. www.tnr.com
As to the issue of morality and assuming that morality includes, among other things, caring for the needy, Bruce Jacobs, a morning talk show host on KTAR radio in Phoenix, Arizona, had some interesting statistics on one of his recent broadcasts. It turns out that the 10 states with the highest per capita percentage of personal donations (i.e. donations as a percentage of personal income) were all "red" states. The five states with the lowest percentage were all "blue" states. I am ashamed to say that my own state, Arizona, red though it may be, was in the bottom 10. Note the "soft" (Peter Beinart's word) attitude towards Communism that characterizes current Democrat leadership. The Clinton administration, for example, facilitated the sale of intercontinental ballistic technology to the Government of the Peoples Republic of China, and we all remember the Elian Gonzalez fiasco. John Kerry worked well with the Communist government of North Viet Nam. The Communist Party USA, though stopping short of an out and out endorsement of John Kerry, stated that they would not run a candidate in this election because they wanted to ensure that the Republicans lost. Note that Communism has been credited with more than one hundred million murders (including executions of political dissidents and the deliberate starvation of large populations) in the 20th century. To further bring discredit to their party, some prominent and vocal Democrats, actually had the temerity to compare President Bush to Adolph Hitler. Such a comparison is patently ridiculous to anyone who has even a basic understanding of the history of the 20th Century. In my opinion, the question of war is indeed a moral issue. I have still not come to a decision regarding the Iraq war, and the General Authorities, as far as I can tell, have stopped short of endorsing it, leaving it to the membership at large to decide for themselves the justice of this war. I do know that the people we are fighting are evil. As I understand it the majority of the enemy is composed of former members of Hussein's armed forces and Al Qaeda people. My final point is in regards to the Constitution. I'm pretty sure that activists judges, whether Democrat or Republican, are a threat to the Constitution because of their too liberal interpretation of Constitutional principles. I have taken up too much space already with this post and so I won't elaborate.
Again, my apologies for interrupting the light hearted tone that has characterized this discussion, but I felt compelled to express my opinion, such as it is.