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Since I can remember, it has been normal for me to wake up every 30 minutes or so to shift in bed or move around. It seems to also be normal for me to require much less sleep than the normal Joe.
Take last night for example. After our company softball game (we lost, 32-19) I got home at 10:30 PM, watched the end of the news, most of Leno, ate a Big Cherry, then 2 pieces of bread, then read my scriptures and fell asleep somewhere between 11 and 12. Then, at exactly 4:54, my body decided it had had enough. I was sitting at my desk by 06:00 hours. And I am sure that I will have no difficulty functioning today.
I am 32 years old and this is nothing new. I can count on ONE finger the number of nights in a week that I get a full 8-10 hours of sleep.
Is this normal? I have not ruled out sleep apnea, but I lack most of the normal causes and symptoms of folks who suffer from that.
Could it be that I just have a high metabolism and don't require much rest? I used to work 12 hour night shifts for 5 years and had no problem functioning on 4-5 hours of sleep each day. Could it be that I have learned to function on less sleep and just don't recognize what being 'fully rested' really is???
I don't know. I guess I'm sort of getting tired of not being tired. Does that make sense?
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The first question was and I think you answered it... do you get really tired during the day esp after lunch around 1 or 2 in the afternoon?
Second when I was in the Navy and had to stand watch all night it has taken me 4 years to kinda return to a "normal" sleep pattern. I still acctually have a very similar experience to you when it comes to sleep.
I haven't gone to the Dr. yet as I can function. I don't feel "normal" during the day though. Hang in there brother!
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Personally, I would love to live on as little sleep as possible. So, far I'm working on about 6 hours a night, except on weekends when I might sleep a bit longer. Now for me I can tell that I'm forcing this on myself. I know that my body would like to sleep more, but I always get a second wind starting at 6PM. Then when I go to bed around midnight I'm still not tired. And when I do stay up till I'm tired its 1 or 2AM.
I know that I would live better on a world with a day lasting 26 to 28 hours long. I love to get my 8 hours of sleep, but then I want to stay awake for the next 20 hours.
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1. Half hour or so. You know...I do the 'head-bob' for a little while at my desk and then get up to stretch my legs. 2. See #1. It's tired enough that if I laid down on the floor, I would be out like a light. But stretching the legs generally cures it.
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Shocking statement, you're not getting enuf sleep. No spit Moroni!
It is usual to get sleepy in the middle of the afternoon, NOT to the point that you are dozing off, I worked with soldiers and sailors that were experiencing lack of sleep fatigue, not good when painting the side of the Lincoln, standing watch, or shooting a gun.
I would definately see a doctor. you have health insurance or a health share...use it! It isn't worth spending time trying to solve a problem like that. I have a cousin that ended up in a ravine up in Deer Valley cuz he had sleep fatigue and fell asleep at the wheel.
It would be nice to still be able to play regular basketball with him.
getting lulls in the mid afternoon so tired that you could go into a deep sleep signs of a problem (prolly minor).
Try cutting out all caffine, asprin, and high glucose and sugar foods, you could have a number of diabetic problems. EKA which is where your blood sugar builds up and it can make you get really tired, otherwise there are diabetes' that make you loose all of your blood sugar and you also get really tired.
Then there are a mirriad of sleep disorders
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I stand with FLYBYNIGHT, though I never fly by the nighttime . I always feel bad to be forced by the alarm clock.
And to you,I think your body requirement rules your sleep.You may spend less and get comeback whenever you have a break or a release movement.
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For over 25 years I slept for just 4 hours a night, but a good quality deep sleep that is refreshing, and not one that leaves me feeling sleepy in the daytime. I think if you are not able to get any quality sleep and are tired in the daytime, then you may have a sleep problem that you should be discussing with a doctor.
In the last couple of years I have made an effort to go to bed before midnight, and sleep till 6, but oddly enough I find that I am more tired in the daytime, I am persevering with it, but I don't think it is doing me a lot of good.
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As in a lot of things medical it is very much about degree of bothersomeness. It depends on how much of your function is hampered by tiredness. I have mild sleep apnea and restless leg syndrome. I was not aware of either condition, only that I don't sleep long and I wake up tired. Both conditions are progressive so while they are not too bad now it is expected to get worse. At present the sleep apnea is treated by sleeping on my side. Making that modification added about an hour to my sleep. I generally now get about 5 hours of sleep a night. Posts: 580 | Registered: Feb 2006
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I'm a life-long insomniac. During my adult years I have had the nightly (and sometimes daily) agonies of Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS). The symptoms of this have been more or less controlled for the past five years by medication. What a wonderful difference this has made to my life.
However, I still have insomnia. The difference now is that I am physically relaxed, because of my RLS medication, instead of thrashing around in the bed all night. Two weeks ago, I finally saw a sleep specialist in another city (I wrote about this experience in another thread). After going over my history, she informed me that I have idiopathic insomnia. (My grown kids now happily tell me I'm officially an psychopathic idiot.)
My symptoms are as follows: I have 3 to 4 hours a night in interrupted sleep. I rarely sleep longer than an hour at a time. I fall asleep within a few minutes of going to bed, but will wake up anywhere between 5 minutes to an hour later. From then on, I spend more time awake than asleep. I dream whenever I sleep and get very little deep sleep. I function well for being sleep-deprived, but I am usually tired.
The doctor told me that the sleep mechanism in my brain isn't functioning well. I have enough seratonin for the sleep mechanism to work the first time, but not enough to keep it going through the night.
I won't go into all the details of her ideas on this, but if anyone wants to get further information about what I learned at the sleep clinic or on RSL, you can e-mail me.
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I doubt it's sleep apnea, but you should go to a sleep center and get checked out.
I have sleep apnea. Before I was diagnosed and got a cpap, I would get so tired all day long, the first thing I'd do when I got home is go to sleep. I'd take naps, I'd sleep 12 hours at a time, and awake as though I'd never gotten any sleep. This was because i was getting no deep sleep, and because my breathing stops, my mind would be in a constant state of waking me up, and I never got the deep soothing REM sleep that I needed.
quote: Ray This was because i was getting no deep sleep, and because my breathing stops, my mind would be in a constant state of waking me up, and I never got the deep soothing REM sleep that I needed.
That remind me about one of my schoolmate.I've seen he was moving his eye rapidly at a deep sleep after a whole night working.I could see the shift of the white and the eyelip,It looks odd.
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You don't need to get checked out unless you're having symptoms--like fatigue--or are truly worried about it. You would be tired if it was sleep apnea because it interrupts your sleep.
Our psychiatrist who lectured us on sleep said that some lucky people just don't need as much sleep. You likely skip the various sleep stages and get to REM sleep (the one that really counts) much more quickly than most people.
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I never used to have a problem with insomnia but in the last year, it has gotten bad. I sleep 5 hours a night. No matter what. If I go to bed at 9 pm, I am awake at 2 am and cant get back to sleep. If I got to bed at midnight I wake up at 5. It is so frustrating. I am so tired all the time. I was given a prescription to help me but it just made me feel groggy and drugged out after my five hours were up. Posts: 8103 | Registered: Jun 2005
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I remember the first night after sleeping with a cpap. I had been woken up a number of times due to the fact that I was in a hospital and they were adjusting the airflow to compensate for the number of apneas I was having. Just a couple hours of REM sleep, and I felt so AMAZINGLY refreshed, that I went home the next day and Painted the girl's bedroom (a project I'd put off for months and months, cuz I was always so exhausted).
I bring my cpap everywhere now.
The only draw back is that I no longer wake up in the middle of the night clawing at the ceiling, thinking that it's covered with spiders, or shouting at the shadow people that would come into the room and haunt my nights.
Also how's your mattress, that can affect how well you sleep. Children can affect how much sleep you get. As can stress and other external influences.
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I know there are medical conditions and they are to be taken VERY seriously, but for me, when I experienced my problems out of the Navy up untill last year I was just thinking about it too much. I would lie awake and think, Why am I NOT falling asleep. then in my head I would be like SLEEP, SLEEP, SLEEP!!!!!
Then I would be wound tighter than a "G" string ready to snap and I couldn't fall asleep.
I am not hinting anything or suggesting anything, but I went to LDS social services and started talking to Dr. Lambson and it really REALLY worked!!
I dont have any psycological problems, I am not a psycho, or what ever but it was(IS) just someone once a week I can just vent my angers fears and hopes to with out tying up the Bishopric.
I have felt SOOOOO much better.
Like I said I am NOT implying anything, it may be a good thing to try though Posts: 715 | Registered: Mar 2006
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"I dont have any psycological problems, I am not a psycho"
Isn't that what all psychos say?
(I agree, moroni, a lot can be stress and such, but stress is actually a very complex psychological issue... and often years of twisting oneself up in a knot can take years of untwisting...)
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I agree whole heartedly rayb, that's why sometimes I stick my neck out there and say some of the things I do, I am not trying to energise anyone, well maybe a little sometimes, but I have no regrets sharing that I speak to a Shrink once a week, I have a stressful job, and I am soooooo busy, its nice to have someone for the sole purpose of helping me manage...well you know...
Life can get overwelming and I'd rather focus on positive energy with my friends, family, associates, and congregates. So Dr. Lambson and my "secular shrink" Dr. Carten(a family friend no less) are great sources of support.
I was just throwing the thought out there cuz most of the Psychology bills are covered by health insurance/health share.
They can really work miracles!
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I suffer from insomnia when I'm pg. That's annoying, cuz you are so tired all the time anyway.
Ooooo, and one poster mentioned their roommate sleeping with their eyes open. Shiz does that sometimes. It is very creepy. Especially when all you can see are the whites of his eyes. Posts: 3274 | Registered: Mar 2006
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Casi is referring to my sleep-walking episodes, including one where I tried to take out the trash at 2am.... Posts: 2801 | Registered: Mar 2006
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I remember an article about a sleep experiment where the person purposely tried to stay awake as much as possible and if they did fall asleep only stay asleep for 15 minutes.
As I recall there are sleep stages. REM being just one of them. Turns out this person would fall into one and only one of these three states very quickly. Overall, adding up the individual singular sleep events the ratio spent in each stage was approximate to the ratios of time in each stage for regular sleepers.
So, REM sleep is important, but so are the other stages.
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quote: Casi is referring to my sleep-walking episodes, including one where I tried to take out the trash at 2am....
WEll, there are also the conversations that you don't remember at all in the morning. You know, the ones where you wake me up to talk and then don't remember it?
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quote: or shouting at the shadow people that would come into the room and haunt my nights.
The only reason the shadow people came is because they noticed a body where the spirit was about to leave because it was O2 deprived and perhaps they thought that maybe they'd try and slip in.
From one who suffers from sleep apnea and cannot yet afford a cpap machine I know exactly what you mean.
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