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Woohoo, page 2! Now our speculations can include Nazi's and such. Or is that page 3?
Pamone, were you meaning to say that he did not kill the mom because she represented the innocent man he killed -- and he lowered his gun because of the remorse he felt?
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Yes. Locke told the story about the death of his sister and how his mother was convinced that she came back in the form of the dog. The boar tormented Sawyer, as Sawyer was tormented by the memories of Sawyer. Sawyer sought revenge towards the boar, as he sought revenge on Sawyer. When given the chance to kill the boar, he chose to let it go, instead of what he did with the man he thought was Sawyer but discovered after the fact wasn't. And the boar ceased tormenting Sawyer. Ergo, the Mom boar was no longer the Mom boar, but Sawyer.
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Ok one of my friends gave me an interesting inyterpretation of the island. He said it's purgatory, and that all of them are really dead trying to "learn their lesson" so they can be taken home.
I don't know about that , although it makes ya see things from a different perspective.
Locke is definately my favorite.
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quote: Ergo, the Mom boar was no longer the Mom boar, but Sawyer.
Ok, I got you. But of course the boar was not the real Sawyer. Rather, he was the innocent man (Harvey Leek to Nash Bridges fans) whom Psuedo-Sawyer killed after being falsely led to believe that he was Sawyer.
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Okay, I have absolutely have no insider information, and I hate spoilers, so here goes my attempt at speculation... I freely admit that the thought is not mine, but I like the idea of it so much that I have my fingers crossed.
Someone on another board speculated that the show could turn out to be like Stephen Kings "The Stand". I mean they seem to be breaking into separate groups... the beach dwellers & the cave dwellers, and Locke seems to be gathering followers, and Hurley seems to be the only other person that knows what is going on with the other survivors...
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I hope it's not Children of the Corn!! That was too scary!! I read the book, did not see the movie, and yeah your right, Sawyer has made at least two comments referring to the Lord of the Flies... but I just took them as them showing us that Sawyer is more than a con man, that he is well read and of course Lord of the Flies certainly fits the situation they find themselves... but then again as I think on it, 2 comments plus a boar?? Hmmm....
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TV Guide says you're going to get Hurley's backstory this week. And me in California! I hope the TiVo works!
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Yes, the TV Guide even tells Hurley's deep secret. But out of respect for Pink Floyd, I have not posted anything about Hurley's unusual financial situation here.
helpfully, KHK
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Sawyer and Jin are both consumed by self-hatred. Sawyer because he killed an innocent man; Jin because he allowed himself to be used by Sun's father to hurt an innocent person.
I think Kate has self-hatred issues too. I'm really looking forward to finding out why that little toy plane was so significant to her.
Does anyone on the island like him/herself? I think Claire likes herself. Hurley seems pretty comfortable in his own skin. And Locke is certainly the epitome of a happy camper, isn't he.
Two days to a new episode . . .
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What about Michael? I think he is okay with himself, although a little nervous about instant re-parent-hood.
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I agree, I think Michael is pretty well adjusted and that he is nervous about being a good dad. I think he has good instincts and should follow them...
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I think it was Hurley that we saw in the airport with Jin and Sun. Not that I remember but it makes sense that it would be him as he was on Korean TV.
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But Jin and Sun were in Australia, not Korea when we saw them getting on the plane. I thought we saw Jack in the airport with him, and Jack was arguing about getting his dad's coffin on the plane. Posts: 4767 | Registered: Jun 2004
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I like Locke. It was nice of him to build a cradle for Claire, and even let her help. His character could have been this spooky guru type, and instead he's likable - smiles and everything. I'm also glad Claire mentioned that she is beginning to remember bits and pieces. She could help solve the puzzle of the island.
What do you think the connection is between the people who kidnapped Claire and the French woman?
And for Pete's sake, doesn't anyone on the island have communication skills? Charlie should have asked Hurley what he was talking about, rather than assuming Hurley was lying about his net worth. So much could be solved if people would just ask the next question. Posts: 4767 | Registered: Jun 2004
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Every one had a chance to see it except Kathryn? Don't read this Kathryn...
Yep, Locke seems to be a nice guy some of the time. I still like him the best.
Hurley episode: Best one for a while. Connections: Hurley owns a box company. Could it be Locke's? (good job solo.)
And what of those numbers? 4 8 15 16 23 42
They got to mean something, don't they? Zeta Flux: Any mathematical relationship? Are they they key to open the burried latch door? Good ending. Enough to keep us going until the next "new" episode, probably in sweeps month of May.
42: "The answer to the question of life" from "A Hitchhikers guide to the Universe."
23: $23,000 was the reward for Kate's capture.
16: How long the mysterious French Woman has been on the island
4+8 48: The number of original survivors (of course some have been killed off...)
8+15 815: The Flight number.
Hurley's life is tragically funny.
Funny crossing the rope bridge scene. Hurley makes it and Charlie breaks it.
Funniest line: Hurley: "I'm spry."
Question I was hoping to have answered: Where does the name "Hurley" come from?
More questions to be answered: What about the radio tower? What does the French woman know about Ethan's group? (She says all of her "boatmates" died.) What is under that hatch? Was the crash Hurley's fault? More?
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Hey, Pink. I haven't seen you since you deleted the mayo story. I thought maybe you'd pulled a Beecroft on us or something.
I thought the number on the metal thing was just some kind of an ID number for whatever that object is. It didn't occur to me that the numbers may have some other mysterious meaning. I hate thought of waiting until May or later to find out.
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Wow, PF. Your explaination on the numbers is really good. My only thought when I saw the scenes were that Hurley's friend said something about 'letting it out of the box and not being able to get it back in.' Sort of a Pandora's box thing, then of course the episode ended with a view of 'the box', with those same numbers on it.
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Ooooo.... Good one pamone. Do you think Hurley will recognize it? Was Hurley a patient in the mental hospital with his friend, or did he work there?
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I got that much. I just didn't think that the numbers might have some other meaning -- like all those other things you listed.
I also gathered that Hurley was a patient.
As for the metal thing, I suspect it is part of some kind of vehicle that got stuck on the island. Those who got stuck with it sent out the ID number over the radio (like a distress signal or something), which brought both the French lady and the current crash survivors.
Was it Ethan that sent out the numbers over the radio?
I just hope we don't get to the end of all this only to find out that it was all somebody's bad dream. Posts: 865 | Registered: Oct 2004
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I hope they solve some mysteries as they create new ones. My fear is they (the producers and writers) will feel no need to solve anything, knowing we're waiting for answers. But people do get bored if a show makes no sense.
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I'm with you Lisa. It is sort of why I lost interest in X Files. Always little hints and new mysteries, but no answers.
It will be kind of fun to see reruns and see if you can catch things (like numbers) that you missed earlier, but not if the reruns go on forever.
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With all the talk here and on Hatrack, I really wanted to watch the show this week, but I thought it was on a 8. ARRGG! I guess I will try again next week.
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quote:I hope they solve some mysteries as they create new ones. My fear is they (the producers and writers) will feel no need to solve anything, knowing we're waiting for answers. But people do get bored if a show makes no sense.
I've been watching and enjoying the show from the start but I'm starting to get to this point. A few coincidences can just be coincidences, a few too many coincidences and you figure someone is setting someone up, but this show has so many "coincidences" that I can't think of any explanation that would involve just a single instigator which pushes it into the realm of conspiracy theories and I hate conspiracy theories.
I enjoyed the Hurley episode, but it did seem a little inconsistent with the way the character has been portrayed in previous episodes. If he believes himself to be a jinx, wouldn't he have been a bit more uptight about what had been going on before?
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I think I read an article where the producers said that no, the characters weren't all dead.
The Hurley episode was by far the best one in awhile. Wayyy lot of information in an hour. I didn't catch the box company thing, way to go everyone.
Hurley was a mental patient. Think to him saying in his press conference that he had "put his family through a lot the last few years." Think to when he turns to Charlie and very nearly growls, "I am NOT crazy." The only time he has shown real tension and a chance to lose control since the crash, IIRC.
Unlike some others, I think Hurley's back story pulls us closer to some answers about how everyone and everything is connected on the island. His story most concretely points to a specific force or purpose to everything going on there, more than any other character so far.
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Some things I didn't catch on Jack's memory of his father and the current situation. Jack did not want to give up on the woman his father operated on. While searching for Charlie and Claire he says, "I can't let him do it again." He and Kate come across Charlie. After cutting down Charlie, Jack is in the same situation of trying to save someone who is dead. The difference is this time, he doesn't give up and saves the patient. Did Jack feel that in some way he was responsible for the woman's death? Perhaps by refusing to admit his father's alcholism was a problem? Which he finally realizes after the PREGNANT woman dies? He refused to believe Claire and now Charlie was dying. His problem: he refuses to admit or act on a situation until tragedy happens.
It seems that the characters are put in situations where they have to "relive" a problem. Jack with his father, Sawyer with the man who wasn't sawyer, Sayid with the choice of torturing someone or not. Kate killed a man and was asked by another to kill him. Was the the man she killed her father, perhaps he asked her to put him out of his misery? Interesting with Sayid, he chose to torture Sawyer and then was tortured. Hmmm, Shannon's problem was using older men - so, is she going to have a situation that will tempt her to use Sayid and toss him or will she choose to actually commit to a relationship. We haven't seen her back story yet - just her brother's.
Walt's step-father called him the luckiest boy alive.
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Some things I noticed besides what you did:
Hurley saying to Walter when he walked away: "You'll get it (the money he owes him)."
Locke near the end just before they discover the strange metal door: "Can't you 'feel' it?" What is his connection with the island?
Did Walter "conger up" those numbers he needed to win the game? I did notice more this time the "lucky-ness" of Walter.
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