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Anyone who wants to see the hottie at the funeral: Take a look at the Gilligan link posted above (sorry, I don't know how to copy it again here--it's Pink Floyd's post on May 12). He's standing to Hurley's right.
Regarding the girl at the back of the plane. It may just have been a device to show how Jack almost didn't survive--if he had taken her offer to switch seats. Or to convey that he is no longer married. Or... remember the black lady who was sitting across the aisle from Jack? Remember how her husband was in the bathroom in the tail? Remember how she said she KNEW he was alive? And how she thought that those people had crashed somewhere else and were going through the same things...? Hmm...
And do we know for a fact what the guy on the other side of the radio that Boone contacted said? I think most people believe he said "there were no survivors of Oceanic flight 815," BUT I always thought he said "WE'RE the survivors of Oceanic flight 815." At the time I thought we were going to find out he was just talking to Sayid or something. Now I wonder if he was talking to the people from the tail? Hmm...
Maybe the people on the raft are going to find the tail people?
Also, was the ship actually named "The Black Rock"? I mean, did they show that and I missed it? I just thought Danielle was delusional and didn't realize it was a ship...
Also, if the monster is just a mechanical device, how and why did it eat the pilot?
Finally, Locke has already said that he wants to stay on the island. He told Walt that when the two of them were talking about why Walt burned the raft. Walt said, "I like it here." Boone said, "I like it here, too." Boone has no desire to leave; that's why I always suspected that he was the one that knocked out Sayid.
Well, that's it for now. Can't wait until tomorrow night!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh, and about Kate. I somehow got the impression that that was not her biological mom. Why did I think that? Was it because she called her by her first name? It seems to me there was more than that. For some reason I was thinking that Kate was adopted or a foster child or something...that she came into that family when she was older (not a baby). Am I imagining things?
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I had that impression about Kate and her Mom, too.
What's with all the watches that everyone's wearing? If you were on a deserted island, why in the world would you wear your watch? Could there be somesort of clue here? I mean, it is by design that the characters are wearing them. And it seems (to me) that the camera focused on them several times.
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Oh you two. That is SOOO good. It never occurred to me that Kate's mom was anyone but Kate's mother. With Kate, you never know what to believe. Her life is filled with so many lies.
And the watches. I will watch closer. We do know that Jin's on the flight because he is delivering watches to people for his employer. They sure mean something to him.
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You people ALL know a lot more about this show than I do, but I know one tiny thing you don't.
Jack's tattoo was part of him before this series came into being. It's his real, live tattoo.
I have no idea what it signifies, but I have read (I think it was in TV Guide) that somehow there will be a storyline attached to it. When the storyline IS attached to it, just remember that the tattoo was there before the storyline was created.
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Yep. They belong to Matthew Fox, alrighty. Here is a gallery devoted to his tattoo(s). The center of it is the number 5. He is pretty secretive about what they all mean, but he may have gotten the 5 in honor of "Party of Five" where he got his real start. The chineese characters could be from a poem that roughly translated means "eagle rushes the wild sky."
Also, in the early flashback scenes, the tattoos are covered up.
Pink Floyd, who needs a life.
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Oh, also saw Hurley on an old "Becker" rerun last night. I never watched the show, but there wasn't anything else on at 12:30 am. It looks like he had a re-occurring character.
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OK, I know you all are still watching it, so I promise this is not a spoiler. Just a question:
Why did Hurley go with the group to get the dynamite? He doesn't seem like one to make such a trek. Why did he volunteer? Dang, I wish I had re-watched last week's episode. I don't remember!!!!
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I don't know about this. I was just a little disappointed. The story just seems to go on and on and on and on.
1. Too bad about Arzt. "Dude. You hae a piece of Arzt on you." 2. What was up with the end scene of everyone on the plane? What was the point of that? 3. Too many cliff hangers: a. Who were those guys? b. Who is still alive on the raft? c. 15 miles out (or so) so they can probably find their way back, can't they? d. The tiny boat that kidnapped Walt. It wasn't exactly ocean going, was it? Did it come from the island? Are these "the others?" If so, they are sure disappointing... e. Did we really need Charlie to find the heroin? Will he relapse or won't he? f. A long ladder? What is up with that? g. What is with that black puff of smoke when they feed up Locke? h. What will be the "Locke Problem" that Jack needs Kate's help with?
What answers did we find out? 1. Danielle was in on the kidnapping of Claire. So, how did Claire escape from "Jungle Woman?" Was she set free? Oops, that's another question. 2. Sawyer is a scum bag again. Reading everyone's letters...
Numbers were everywhere in tonights episode. What did you spot? "The Numbers are Bad. The Numbers are Bad." Locke could have at least listened to Hurley. What would it take. 60 seconds? Maybe they could have started putting together that they all have connections to the numbers.
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Locke is an "Island" zealot. As with any religious fanatic, they are irrational troublemakers. This is the reason Jack is concerned. Also, that is also why Locke didn't listen to Hurley - he had to get the hatch open.
I made the same observation about the boat. Too small to have come from too far. I'm not, however, disappointed if they come from the island. I think everyone survived on the boat.
Either the island is manmade or it is heavily tunneled to accomodate the security system and whatever else the island is/was used for.
I would have been disappointed if they answered the big questions, yet.
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I think the end scene of everyone on the plane was just a time filler. I think they are writing this script as they go along and there is no overall direction. It just kind of grows like a story added to by people sitting around a camp fire.
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1) I was disapointed about Artz--I liked his character. But it was a great "gasp" moment when he died. 2) Hurley HAD to be on the trip to blow up the hatch so that he could see the numbers. So even though it was unlikely he would've gone, they had to place him there for that discovery. 3) The realization that Danielle was going to take the baby was a really creepy and well done scene. 4) I immediately knew when Sayid and Charlie caught up to Danielle and she said, "They whispered they were going to get the boy" that it meant Walt. At first I was mad at myself for sensing it, but then I think it actually made me MORE anxious, since I knew what whoever found the raft was going to do. 5) I think the men on the raft will all be okay. It looks like Sawyer took one in the shoulder, but I still think they will make it back to shore. Although they were pretty much on that raft all day with sails, so I am guessing it will take some kind of work-or intervention-to get them back to the island. 6) The hatch leading down a deep corridor was great. I think that it leads to the "heart" of the island and a lot more answers. 7) I have to disagree with everyone here and say that I loved the end plane boarding scene, and I believe it was a calculated move. It places us back where this journey began, where the crazy sequence of events all started. It also served to emotionally "connect" us back to the characters we have been getting to know. Look, there's Boone taking care of Shannon, so sad that he dies. Look, there is the first eye contact between Locke and Jack, who are now seemingly enemies. There is Artz helping Claire with her bag, who just met such a quick and dramatic demise. Like Pink had said in an earlier post, it's a great storytelling technique, taking us back to the point of seeing these characters before the things happen to them that we KNOW are going to happen....but at the point THEY didn't know it yet.
Can't wait for next season!!
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I was hoping for more answers, but I'm not disapointed by the episode. I love the way they are telling the story. There are mysteries on the island, but it's the mysteries about the characters that intrigues me more.
The people on the boat were definetly "the Others"--at least that's my take on it. The fact that they are hillbilly fishermen was totally unexpected.
I really enjoyed the ending with everyone getting on the airplane. It just seems to bring it all together for me. Made me remember each of their backstories and what brought them to this point. It's also them saying good-bye to their former lives.
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My adult son and wife came over to watch American Idol, so I had my husband record Lost. The last hour got lost. The last I saw was Locke looking up with fear in his eyes.
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Remember the episode when Ethan threatens to kill someone everyday until they give Claire back to him? The survivors set a guard all night, and still that Scott/Steve person gets killed because whoever killed him came in from the ocean! I remember them talking about that point. So "the Others" must have had a boat! Now we see the boat as it kidnaps Walt.
Why did Walt have such a bad premonition about opening the hatch, but didn't have any bad premonitions about going off on the raft? Couldn't he sense his own personal danger?
Darn Charlie for bringing back some heroin!! That was the doll he had that they showed at the end - right? I was so sure he didn't pick up the heroin, and so mad at him at the end when they showed it!
The first time Locke glimpsed the monster, he was fascinated by it. This time he was scared. I wonder why the difference.
Claire must have really raked the Frenchwoman's arm if the scratches still look that bad after so many weeks.
Jin giving the watch to Michael was a nice touch. Knowing that Jin was under a threat to get those watches delivered made his initial violence (at the first of the season) when he thought Michael had stolen the watch more understandable.
Too bad Sawyer didn't shoot the Others before the Others shot him.
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Yeah, Sawyer's a doofus. I'da had that 9mm in my hand as soon as the 'blip' came onto the radar. The nature of the island has just been too kooky for me to trust anyone or anything.
I liked the episode. They sure do know how to keep us watching each week, don't they!?! It's 2 steps forward, 3 steps back every week.
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I dunno Tapeguy, that's the sort of thing that really turns me OFF. Now I gotta watch an entire new season? BOO. We learned very close to NOTHING this entire season, I'm severely disappointed. It's just my personality type or whatever, but I really don't want to watch another season, because they'll keep doing 2 steps forward 3 steps back a la X-Files until the show loses popularity 10 seasons down the road or whatever.
quote: We learned very close to NOTHING this entire season
I would have to strongly disagree with this statement. Whenever I talk to someone who HASN'T been watching the show, and they want me to catch them up on it, I realize that I would have to talk for three hours straight to even begin explaining it. There's been a LOT this season.
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Ok, I have been thinking about something all day:
We all pretty much agree that Locke has this queer attachment to the island. He seems not fearful but curious, as each new adventure takes place. He tends to find peace and confidence in each new mystery and challenge.
This leads me to wonder:
Is there a possibility that Locke could get to the point where he wishes to become an "other"??
What was with the two guys sitting down in the others' boat? At first I thought they were prisoners or something, but then they kept smiling. Why did they need that many guys in that little boat?
I'm pretty frustrated with the two steps forward/three back stuff too, but the nice part is that you can really miss *huge* chunks of the show and keep enjoying it. I missed quite a few episodes this season and yet I still enjoyed the finale.
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It brings up a seating chart for Oceanic flight 815. Click on the row numbers at the bottom of the chart in the order:
4 8 15 16 23 42
Familiar numbers? It is supposed to be a sneak preview of the commercial they will be running this summer for the preview next fall.
I said supposidly.
I had a hard time linking to the site, so you might have to paste the url in the address bar and get to it that way. Also, it has been crashing all afternoon becaue of like a billion people trying to access it. But it is pretty cool.
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This ep was frustrating for me cuz it didn't end with cliffhangers that had answers. The whole pirate boaters/kidnapping thing....how the heck will they resolve that? Unless the pirates drop anchor at THE island. Tunnels yay. Dark tunnels even. Ok, now what, anyone care to enter? LOL seems so what is this place anyway? Maybe the military had this place for awhile. Bermuda Triangle stuff too. Crashed plane, beached ships. Like Gilligan's Island, everyone lands here but no one knows it exists. At least they found Clarie's baby fast but Charlie and his drugs, oh no. :-/ He's clean, why does he want to start that again?
Oh well, summer is here, no good TV to watch anyway.
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When they showed Hurley rushing through the airport, dripping and soaked with sweat, all I could think was, "With my luck, I'd have to sit next to him."
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One of the things I really liked was before Arzt got excieted with the dynamite. He was talking to Hurly and said: "Hey, there are others in our group besides you guys. We do things too, you know."
I thought it was in part responding to the numerous questions here and other places that goes something like: "What are all those background people doing while our core group is off playing golf?"
I'm going to miss Arzt.
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Arzt was annoying. When he blew up I sighed and thought, "Good, won't have to deal with that nut next season!"
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Cauterizing with gunpowder and a match would be the same as using any hot source, so yes it would work.
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Yes. And don't use black powder....that might be a bad idea. [POOF!}
That 9mm cartridge Sayid took apart contained smokeless gunpowder. It burns slower but it WOULD HURT LIKE THE DICKENS!!!
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When Charlie was willing to get his head burnt like that rather than give up the search for Claire's baby, I thought, "hooray! if he's that dedicated to Claire, then surely he didn't take any of the heroin!"
Sigh. He had the courage to let Sayid cauterize his head wound, but didn't have the courage to leave the heroin where it was. Posts: 4767 | Registered: Jun 2004
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quote: RATTLESNAKE BITE: {In the Handbook For Boys, first aid instructions by Major Charles Lynch of the American National Red Cross, 1926 edition, it was recommended to cauterize the wound as found particularly efficacious by hunters, to remove the bullet from a cartridge, pour the gunpowder into the wound, and set it alight.}
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