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lumina
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I know that I mixed both millenium world events with Celestial events.

My sincere views on the topic are that we will not eat animal meat in either situation. If we do eat it in the millenium then I can only guess it is when the animal has reached the age of a tree and is tranformed into the next world in the twinkling of an eye.

That is my belief in the matter. And I can't go with the Rotisserie Theory because one of the most difficult things to me now is to be around ugly things. I think things will be beautiful looking in the millenium and in the CK. Animals and people with rotisserie limbs are NOT pretty. Thus I believe it rules out that theory. (Plus the sauce would get on the white gowns and upholstery.)

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If we do eat it in the millenium then I can only guess it is when the animal has reached the age of a tree and is tranformed into the next world in the twinkling of an eye.

Yummm...aged beef! [Big Grin]
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Could not find "the lamb and the lion" in the scriptures...it in The Spirit of God hymn, last verse.

"How blessed the day when the lamb and the lion shall lie down together without any ire, and Ephriam be crowned with His blessing in Zion, as Jesus descends with his chariot of fire."

I see the Lamb as the lamb of God and the lion as Judah. Judah rejected Christ, but someday will accept Him.

I have enjoyed this tongue an cheek thread.

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lumina
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Isaiah prophesies about the lion living in harmony with the lamb during the millenium:

Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

In all seriousness, even Joseph Smith made some comments that I infer meaning we will not be killing and eating animals in the millenium but instead will be living together in peace (referring to his comments about the rattlesnake).

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quote:
the rattlesnake
Ummm...tastes like chicken! [Big Grin]
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lumina
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BAD Hansemann!!! lol! [Wink]
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Plants are living critters, too, ya know! Just because you can't you hear those lettuce plants screaming as you pluck off their leaves, that doesn't mean they aren't in pain! How cruel! Are we to be allowed to murder and mutilate plants in the Millenium? [Angst]

[ April 15, 2006, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: Spotted Horse ]

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lumina
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Plants are living critters, too, ya know!
I agree! And so do my plants. Just ask them.

I don't know the answer to your question. In some ancient texts Adam and Eve ate food that was no longer available out of Eden. Maybe we will eat some food that is not available to us now, and possibly not filling to our fallen bodies but nutritious for paradisical bodies.

Maybe we will eat the fruits of plants but only those that can be harvested without killing the plants. Plants don't mind that at all. They like being so helpful (OK, IMO! he he).

As someone who has long conversations with my plants I have great concern over how they (and their offspring) will fair in the next life. I think Heavenly Father loves them and will take care of them.

In any case, I strongly believe we won't butcher and eat horses. I'm sure that's good news to you. [Wink]

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Well, I'm going to be eating animals in heaven... just cuz it will bug Lumina. [Smile]

I can't wait to try eating her cat...

--Ray

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In any case, I strongly believe we won't butcher and eat horses. I'm sure that's good news to you.
Now you've gone and upset some folks in Europe and other parts of the world, taking away a delicacy like that! Me, on the other hand... I'm quite relieved. But what am I gonna eat if not grass and hay?? *pictures herds upon herds of skin-n-bones starving horses* [Frown]

Personally, I still like the replicator theory. Gimme back my coffee!!! *g*

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In some ancient texts Adam and Eve ate food that was no longer available out of Eden. Maybe we will eat some food that is not available to us now,
Yummm.....roast dragon or maybe brontosaurus ribs! [Big Grin]
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quote:
just cuz it will bug Lumina.
Raybies, Grrr!

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I can't wait to try eating her cat...
And double Grrr!
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Me, on the other hand... I'm quite relieved.
SpottedHorse, I thought you might be!
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But what am I gonna eat if not grass and hay?
Well, ya see, eating grass and hay doesn't necessarily hurt the grass or hay, especially if it is done judiciously. As long as you don't remove the entire root it is just like a helpful grass mowing job you are doing. It will make things look prettier and still be very tasty for you. I think the important thing here is to ask the grass and hay when you get there so you know what's what.
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roast dragon or maybe brontosaurus ribs
Hansemann, the dragons will NOT want to cooperate with that idea! [Mad] [Wink] They have already done enough work making all that fossil fuel. The deserve a rest from their labors.
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I can't wait to try eating her cat...
Ah yes, finally another who has asked himself what the logical conclusion of the metaphor of herding cats would be after the cat herders got the herd to the end of the trail... (and while the short lived TV ad was funny, my employer paid mega-bucks for a very short sighted and flawed premise, destined to be a failure in the eyes of anyone with half a brain -- even those whom the zombies had harvested the other half of the brain from!) [ROFL]
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However, we will eat manna and it will have the same texture and taste as anything we want it to: filet mignon, halibut au gratin, chocolate cake with lots of frosting, cheesecake, cherry pie, etc., etc.
Ahh. Divine Tofu. I suspected as much [Wink]

I can see it now. Lumina wailing to Christ " He ate my cat AGAIN! " and Christ patiently saying " Ray. Stop teasing your sister and spit out her cat please "

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Also it is a comfort to think that when all the inhabitants of the Nauvoo Forums become vegetarians in the millenium, the resident zombies will then be shuffling about and groaning " Grains! GRAAAAINSSSS! "

[ April 16, 2006, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: Roiwynn ]

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It OK. Like say, I already getting use to almost no brains here at Nauvoo. I lose lot weight. Lots no brains here. I eat duct tape sometimes I so hunry! Rraar! Hunry! [Mad]
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You poor, poor undead abomination of nature [Frown] I would give you some of my brain to nibble on but I'm a librarian so I need all the brains I can get and I just couldn't risk my job like that, you see. My apologies

Have you tried Soyrebellum? It's all natural tofu brain substitute. It even comes prepackaged in a real clone's skull. Nine out of ten zombies can't tell the difference [Big Grin] and it tastes great in an omelet

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I don't think that resurected beings need to eat, drink, or breathe anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't everybody be a resurected being by then?
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Nope. Those who get to the point where they would die are changed/resurrected in the twinkling of an eye...but there will still be mortals.
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Route55: Well, I really didn't need to eat that extra slice of pizza (topped with Lumina's cat), but I sure did enjoy it. [Smile]

--Ray

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But nodody new will be born, right? After you are "twinkled", your body is that of a resurrected being. Within maybe 80 years everybody would have immortal bodies.
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Watch out for hairballs, ray. Watch out for Lumina, too!
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But nodody new will be born, right?
During the Millenium? Sure, why not? Do you think everyone is suddenly going to become celibate? [Confused]
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The 'twinkled' people won't have children, I don't think. But the mortals will.
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Must resist urge to derail thread worse by deeper discussion of eternities... and Hansemann's topic of choice...

--Ray

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The 'twinkled' people won't have children, I don't think.
Hmmm..."twinkled" safe sex? [Dont Know]
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Euphrasie
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Well, not the mortal variety anyway. Didn't we already have the conversation about how spirit children are created?
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Hopefully the same way as mortal children ... minus the labor pains, of course....
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Sounds like we turn into plants during the millenium, getting our nutrition through photosynthesis. Rayb will be a venus cat-trap.
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In the D&C it says that every corruptible thing, both man and beast will be toast. (D&C 101: 24) So, WILL there be many animals on earth in the millenium? That may be the reason for everyone (who is left) becoming vegetarian.

And I want my soy protein flavored RASPBERRY or BLACKBERRY - milk shake style, with ice cream....etc.

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lumina
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Well, Isaiah describes animals in the millenium. To my mind that is not metaphorical.

People will be born, live to the age of a tree, transfer over to the next stage in a twinkling of an eye, and even intermix with resurrected and dead persons. Their bodies will be different because they are renewed paradisical bodies but not yet resurrected bodies (other than those already resurrected in the first resurrection with Christ).

Rayb may TRY to eat my pet cat, but he doesn't realize I will have a pet BOBCAT.

Additionally, if Rayb eats one of my other cats ultimately the cat will have to use a claw to cut his way out of Rayb's stomach. Now of course the cut will heal right up immediately, but I'm sure it will be VERY embarrassing for Rabie. :blush: Just imagine. He's trying to act all important and respectable teaching some spirit prison people when, BAM, out of his stomach pops this annoyed cat!! Or worse yet, he's in the middle of some judgement interview, trying to say how good he's been when BAM! Out comes cat! Away goes credibility! Rayb will probably be soooo humiliated he won't dare try it again.

Besides, I'm starting to suspect his wild side is really an act and at church he is the model of decorum.

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And I want my soy protein flavored RASPBERRY or BLACKBERRY - milk shake style, with ice cream....etc.
That sounds like stuff I eat now.
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Ray or your bobcat?
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I mean, whose wild side? [Smile]
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oh, lol.

Both I guess. But in that above comment I was referring to Rayb's.

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Yeah, got it. We're all wondering about you...Ray. Your eating habits...
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No, I'm not talking about sterile sex. I mean that I was under the impression that everybody that needs to be born will be born before the second coming. By the time The Lord comes again, we will all either be ressurected or born.
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And now, for something completely different...

What sort of show will Elvis perform in the Millenium? Will he be wearing leather or the sequined white eagle outfit?

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(Cat bursting out of my ressurrected stomach)

Isn't that how the myth of Prometheus was first started among the greeks?

(He was chained to mt olympus and had his innards pecked out by zeus's vultures cuz he gave man fire (or something, I forget) and of course, he being immortal would heal and then they'd peck it out again...)

--Ray

Paaaage flip!

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I'm shocked and appalled that Lumina thinks I'll be bursting out of anyone's stomach, let alone Ray's, in the millenium! [Laugh]
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