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Hmm... are you saying that men on average are uglier than women, or are you saying that the most attractive man in the world is uglier than the least attractive woman. If it's option number two, I'd have to disagree with you I've seen some homely women in my 29 years and I've also seen some truly fine looking men *drool*
Or, to say it another way, beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
And don't even try and tell me you want to do the "more beautiful on the inside" thing or something.
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not "improving" - merely enhancing the inherant beauty the God already gave me.
Although, some of the homely women I spoke of above could have benefitted with the use of a good stylist and makeup artist.
And that makes me think of drag queens. There's some really attractive she-males out there. (Every once in a while I'll see part of a Maury "is it a He or a She?" show )
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A man's looks improve with character. When a woman's face begins to have character, it's time for the "Nip and Tuc" experts.
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I once worked as a sales associate for a store where the men's and women's rest rooms were on opposite sides of the store. A person came up and asked, "Where is the rest room". I had no idea what to say, as for the life of me - I could not figure out if it was a man or woman asking. I think I said that "the men's room was that way and the woman's over there."
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I've had a similar situation, Pamone. At my first job, the counter I worked at was a ways off to the the side of the counter with the sales register. I had to go to the registers to ring people up if there were no sales associates right on hand to assist.
One day I look over and see a woman standing there with her back to me, needing some assistance and nobody there to help her. I began speaking to her as I came up behind her and came around the counter, saying "How can I help you, ma'am" only to discover that Ma'am was a MISTER when I got in front of him! (The 5 o'clock shadow is always a dead giveaway.) As I finish speaking, I see his fingernails on his hand that's resting on the counter, and they're long and painted PINK! EEK! His blond hair was worn in pageboy fashion, curled under, so I think I could be forgiven for the mistake. I wasn't sure whether I should apologize or not for having called him ma'am - I got the feeling he kind of liked it.
When he placed an order for an out-of-stock item with me and gave his first name as "Wendyll" and spelled it for me, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Fortunately he left the store right after that, and I went in the back room and giggled hysterically for some time.
Not very open-minded of me, I'm sure.
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Not long ago, I was eating dinner at the place where I usually go and noticed an unusually tall woman who had stopped by there. A day or so later someone else whispered to me that that person had had a sex change operation. The next day, as I was passing by in front of said person, I observed more closely than I normally would, and saw rather masculine facial features and an Adam's apple. I decided that at least one of us was seriously confused.
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kq, I've seen your pictures, and even as a christmas tree, you're not homely... so there but feel free to keep resenting the thread, I'm sure it's worthy of it anyway Posts: 2959 | Registered: Oct 2004
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Hey, for the record, I had no problems whatsoever wearing makeup (inject obligatory "I was a musician in the hair band heyday" comment). One of the jokes my wife used to say about some of the girls and their catty comments was something along the lines of "hey, take it as a compliment; it annoys them that you look better in their clothes and jewelry than they do" .
For the record, today I would look "horrible" in makeup (too old to pull it off anymore), but when I was 20, I could somewhat pull it off .
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I once recruited a Methodist minister named Dan to serve as our chaplain. About 2 years after joining my Guard unit, Dan came to me and told me he was leaving the Guard due to a medical condition. When I asked him what it was, he just told me that he would also be leaving his parish and that the next time I saw him I wouldn’t recognize him. I had no idea what was going on, but soon started hearing rumors that he was dying of cancer.
The rumors were false.
About six months later I was working at an air show exhibit. We had two of our C-130 aircraft on display, a flight crew and maintenance crew to explain the workings of the aircraft, a security police weapons exhibit, and a number of our aero medical evacuation personnel manning a mockup of an evac tent. All told our exhibit had around 50 personnel, almost all of whom knew Dan but who, like me, hadn’t seen or heard from him for several months.
A couple of hours into the day I was sitting behind our recruiting table, when I heard someone say, “Hi Sergeant Jacaré, how are you?”
The ugliest woman I had ever seen, but who also looked vaguely familiar, was walking towards me. She was wearing a mid-calf length jumper over a floral print blouse, running shoes, and scraggly, stringy hair sticking out haphazardly from under a baseball cap. As I stood to greet her, I realized that this was my friend and former chaplain, Dan. S/he stopped in front of the recruiting table, we shook hands, and s/he said, “Well, now you can see why I had to leave the Guard.”
“Um . . . uh . . . yeah, I can see that.”
We chatted for a few minutes, then s/he left with his/her wife (that’s right – still together and living as, well, never mind) and their two kids. My wife, who was sitting behind me at the recruiting table said, “Honey sit down. I can tell what’s going on here. I can tell that this is a man going through a change. I can tell that this is someone you know. And I can tell that you didn’t know about this until now. I think you handled it well.”
I later learned that Dan is now Deanna. Her older son and Ze_Mormon became friends in high school. They eventually moved out of the area, which is probably just as well. I was always running into Deanna around town (I never could bring myself to call her Deanna). She was usually dressed in a mini-skirt or short shorts . I like to think of myself as an open-minded person, but some things are just beyond my coping ability.
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One of the downsides to going through chemo and losing my hair is that I occasionally get the "may I help you sir?" comment. I can't wear a wig for very long before I get a rash, and due to the "chemopause" I get major hot flashes, so I usually don't wear a hat. So I just endure. I figure I make a MUCH worse man than those guys in drag do a woman!
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One time I was working a job and the ugliest woman went walking by wearing a sweater with beads over a pleated skirt and high heels with nylons up to "her" bony knees and flatter than a pancake in front. "Her" hair was something else again and what really gave it away was "she" had on a full-length beard. At least if "she" wanted to be a woman she could have shaved...
But I will tell you what I think is really "ugly." Most of my family are pretty nice looking people and they've always known it. I was working a job and my nephew who is in the military and probably above-average in looks with blonde hair and blue eyes and his wife as well walked by me without even saying hello and I could hear him mutter "Oh that's my stupid aunt." To me that is what "ugly" is making fun of one of your relatives in a public place or making fun of anyone for that matter. I shouldn't be saying that about that "cross" dresser but sometimes what we say about others can really hurt and I think that is what makes people "ugly." My dad always said "Pretty is as pretty does." Some of my family can be totally "ugly" as far as I am concerned because they love themselves too much. Posts: 1014 | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Men do not need to apply paint to improve our looks.
Women don't "need" it any more than men do. But it would certainly help a lot of men if they would try throwing on some Sephora products now and again. (No offense. Women are in the same boat.) Remember, at other periods in history men DID wear make-up and I'm sure the women were very appreciative.
Anyway, the handsomest men I see do it by keeping up their gym work-outs.
Nicole:
quote:"How can I help you, ma'am" ... I got the feeling he kind of liked it.
Oooooo!!!! Nothing is worse to me than being called "ma'am!!!" YIKES!! In this case however even before I read your last sentence I was guessing, I bet he/she LIKED it!
Boardmadd, if you don't mind sharing, which band were you in?
TheOne, about your initial question, either sex can look pretty darn good!!! It helps if they exercise a lot tho and have a reasonable fashion sense. The one sad truth however, is as men grow older they become "distinguished," while women become ready for some nipping and tucking as mentioned above.
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Not me. I guess I don't see the point of having this type of discussion, everyone is beautiful or handsome in their own way.
Good comment Deseret Rose. One of the quotes I like is: "beauty is only skin deep. But ugly goes clear to the bone" or something like that.
I do know what some of you mean when you can't tell the gender of someone. When I was in 7th grade I had a math teacher who was "Miss So and So". However, she was tall and thin and did sort of look like a man and had a man's voice. Friends and I used to wonder if she was a man or a woman. We did see her bra strap but never knew for sure. I later wondered if she was one of those individuals born w/both male and female gonads, etc Anyway, it doesn't matter. Despite this , this person was a great math teacher and kind person.
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quote:TheOne, about your initial question, either sex can look pretty darn good!!! It helps if they exercise a lot tho and have a reasonable fashion sense.
I imagine if I were to compare a typical fit man with a typical fit woman I would still have to say the man is uglier . I'm biased, of course.
It feels good to be fit and I think that carries a look beyond just merely being fit. I do miss being in shape. If only I had an excercising partner.
It has been real interesting to see where this went .
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I was going to grow a beard once and after a few days my wife told me to get rid of it because I was looking more and more like liberal Micheal Moore. I ended up with a few more cuts on my face as I quickly shaved a few seconds later... and then I started my diet.
quote: Women don't "need" it any more than men do. But it would certainly help a lot of men if they would try throwing on some Sephora products now and again.
BTW, I'm wearing my Clinque Happy for Men I just bought at the relocated Sephora at South Coast Plaza.
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Oh, you are SOOO LUCKY!!!!!!! That mall is the BEST!! Especially for Sephora!! It always has THE BEST in-store events!!! I check the websites of Sephora, Nordstroms, etc. so I can attend the cool events in my area.
But all the big, good stuff is at YOUR mall. We only get a little demonstration every 6 months or so. Posts: 1911 | Registered: Nov 2004
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I didn't know it was "newly relocated." Maybe that's why they schedule so many cool events for you guys.
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Yeah, I know. I was just teasing. Most women overdo it.
It was actually a line in a naturee program once. Most species on earth have homely females and flamboyant males for reproductive success.
One of the things that attracted me to my girlfriend and still attracts me to my wife was her lack of make-up.
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quote:JennaDean -- Umm, boardmadd, are you saying that's you?
Yes, Jenna, that was me circa 1989 when I was 21. I've said that being a musician was a big distraction from living the gospel when I was younger. The fact that I walked around dressed like that at the time probably also proved to be a huge distraction to others, too . Alas, I couldn't wear long hair now even if I wanted to, unless the Ben Franklin look comes back into vogue .
quote:lumina -- Boardmadd, if you don't mind sharing, which band were you in?
Hi Lumina. My most "famous" band was called "High Wire" and we were together from 1989 until 1992. Between 1985 and 1993 I was part of a bunch of different bands, but High Wire was the most successful. We were popular in the Northern California scene but that's about as far as our influence went. Unless you lived in the San Francisco Bay Area, or were part of the "tape trading underground", it's not likely you would have heard of us.
quote: ldswain -- did you ever see Madeline Albright standing next to Bill Clinton?
quote: Oh, you are SOOO LUCKY!!!!!!! That mall is the BEST!! Especially for Sephora!! It always has THE BEST in-store events!!! I check the websites of Sephora, Nordstroms, etc. so I can attend the cool events in my area.
I guess I should consider myself lucky. My office is right across the street. Posts: 2308 | Registered: Jan 2005
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