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CookieJar
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Any of you Photoshop experts? I'm clueless.

I'm looking into getting Photoshop for my artistic endeavors. As far as I can tell, it looks like I'd be getting CS5, but I'm not sure. I don't know what the difference is between all the different programs, or which one is most commonly used by companies, photographers, artists etc.

I want to download the free trial version first, especially since I don't have the money to pay for it right now, but the Adobe website isn't very helpful. I can't tell if it's a limited access program, or if it's all inclusive demo that works up until a certain point where I have to start paying. Nor am I sure if it would work with my current system.
My other problem is that eventually I'll probably end up having to get a Mac. Would I be able to transfer the program between the two computers, or should I just wait until I get the new system?

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You will probably want to wait until you have your new system as PC and Mac versions only work on the respective systems.

I would like to get Photoshop myself but it is too cost prohibitive at this time. I've thought about an older version but haven't looked into availability. I believe the current version is CS6.

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quidscribis
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Yep, the current version is CS6.

The trials are full trials - the full program with zero restrictions of any kind - and are good for 30 days.

My first question, though, is what do you want to do with Photoshop? Depending on what you want to do, Photoshop Elements, Lightroom, or Illustrator might be better... If you're a photographer, then Lightroom is your best bet, perhaps with Photoshop Elements to accompany it. If you're doing vector art or graphics in general, Illustrator may be your best bet. Perhaps tell us a bit more about what you want to use it for specifically? The husband and I have used most of these products at one time or another, some much more frequently than others.

And from Adobe:

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Why can't I use my software on different platforms?

Adobe develops software for different platforms (such as Mac OS, Windows, Linux) and sells the software built for separate platforms as separate products. If you want to use the products on different platforms, it's necessary to purchase a license of the software for each platform you use. A serial number for a product for one platform cannot be used for the same product for another platform.


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Also, when you've decided on which one to use, I can point you in the direction of tutorials or other help.
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Also, depending on what you need, I may be able to point you in the direction of free or low-cost tools that will do the job, if with not quite the same feature set as an Adobe product.
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CookieJar
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For the most part, I'd be using Photoshop for digital Illustrations, with some photo editing on the side.

I've looked into getting Illustrator too, but that's a whole different story. Not sure about Photoshop Elements, but I guess that could be an option.

I'm looking at gaining skills in Photoshop and various other digital programs mostly because that seems to be a key thing employers in my prospective field look for. I've got the hand sketches down, now it's just expanding myself into the digital realm. [Smile]

[ April 30, 2012, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: CookieJar ]

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Photoshop Elements is sort of but not quite like a cutdown version of Photoshop with a feature set that's more appropriate to photographers specifically.

For what you're describing, I'd suggest you check out GIMP and Inkscape. I haven't used GIMP myself, but know a lot of people who happily do. I know quite a few people who use GIMP for photo editing as well as creating artwork.

Inkscape I have used - I used this tutorial on 2D drawing. I am not an artist, but I managed to create stuff that was... reasonable. Not fantastic, of course, but I'm not an artist.

I've since switched to Illustrator, and the skills from Inkscape - not that I had much to start with - transferred very nicely, so it seems to be the way to go if you want to not spend money at this point.

Also, Lightroom is *specifically* for photo editing, only photo editing, and it's non destructive. It's a beautiful, beautiful program. I've used it far more than I have the other programs. I LOVE Lightroom.

[ April 30, 2012, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: quidscribis ]

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Thanks quidscribis! [Smile]

My last question:
what exactly is the difference between all the different versions of Photoshop? Is it different tools, different controls, or just making new software that's compatible with newer systems?

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A program will only work on the platform for which it is designed. Windows programs work on Windows, Mac programs work on Macs, Linux, same thing. However, the data those programs create is with rare exception transferable.

So, if you create something on a Mac, you can usually count on being able transfer that file to a Windows box and continue editing it.

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They just ran a deal for students, Photoshop extended, $40. That was a few weeks ago though. There are new options with CS6, like a 20$/month "rental" of the program. And the beta is available to download for free right now.
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Cookie, every new release - ie CS3 to CS4 - of each program means that all sorts of new features and enhancements have been added. The updates are not merely superfluous nor are they just to keep up with newer and more powerful hardware.

When you say the difference between the Photoshops, do you mean between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements? You can google "photoshop elements vs photoshop" and get an awful lot of opinions. I haven't used elements myself, so I'm going by what I've heard other people say. I also listen to a fair number of photography podcasts, so that's the general area my information comes from - I'm a hobbyist photographer. My foray into graphic design is very recent and I'm very much a beginner in the arena.

My general understanding is that if you're a hobbyist photographer, go with Lightroom (or Aperture from Apple if you're on a Mac) and possibly also Elements, and that'll be more than enough for 95% of photographers.

Between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements, they are developed side by side. Some new features go into Elements before they go into Photoshop simply because the developers on the Elements product think of them first or that sort of thing, and those features are later ported into Photoshop. And sometimes, probably more frequently, it works the other way.

Honestly, if it were me in your shoes, I'd be inclined to start with GIMP and Inkscape, use tutorials, learn how to use those two programs effectively, and then download the trials of the various Adobe products and test drive those. You probably won't really know which Adobe products will suit you best until you know what you're doing. If that makes sense. And since the interface on Inkscape is so similar to Illustrator, and how it works is so incredibly similar (and I'm guessing GIMP is likely the same), there's really no wasted time learning on Inkscape or GIMP.

I'd also suggest you join a graphic design forum or two. Hmm, let me dig up a link for you... Vicki Wenderlich is a graphic artist. Her husband runs an iOS developer's tutorial site that the husband tech edits for, which is how I know about her. In this post, she lists a few forums at the end where developers can find graphic artists. The implication there being that that's where graphic artists hang out, so you might want to check those out. Additionally, check out deviantart.com - terrific artwork and they also have forums.

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One more question... You say that you'll probably eventually have to get a Mac. Why? Are you under the impression that you have to get a Mac to compete in the graphic artist world? If that's what you're thinking, I don't believe that's at all true. It might have been 10 or 20 years ago, but not any more.
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I don't know for sure yet if I am getting a Mac, and if I am, it won't be for quite a while since they cost so much. The reason being is because it is the system highly recommended by the Visual Arts Department...... and, I personally tend to prefer Macs anyway. [Wink]

Thanks for the program tips. I'm trying out GIMP right now, and it's great.

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